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Remember “good conversation?” Remember what it was like to speak freely, to talk about complicated and sometimes controversial subjects with people who wouldn’t twist your words or insist that certain topics are off-limits? Remember when healthy disagreement was considered not threatening or unsafe but actually healthy? Author, essayist and journalist Meghan Daum has spent decades giving voice—and bringing nuance, humor and surprising perspectives—to things that lots of people are thinking but are afraid to say out loud. Now, she brings her observations to the realm of conversation. In candid, free-ranging interviews, Meghan talks with artists, entertainers, journalists, scientists, scholars, and anyone else who’s willing to do the “unspeakable” and question prevailing cultural and moral assumptions.

Latest Episodes

How To Let Your Kids Live More Dangerously: A conversation with “America’s Worst Mom,” Lenore Skenazy

Journalist Lenore Skenazy was dubbed “America’s Worst Mom” in 2008 for a column about letting her nine-year-old ride the subway alone. The controversy led her to speak out about finding safe ways to allow kids to be more independent and she founded the Free Range Kids movement. In 2018 she co-founded Let Grow, a nonprofit that offers resource materials, school curricula and even does policy work with an aim toward helping kids be more self-sufficient (and helping their parents allow them to be). In this interview, Lenore talks with Meghan about her work, her own parenting and the fact that, as she puts it, “There’s never been a safer time to be a child in America.”Guest Bio:Lenore Skenazy is co-founder and president of Let Grow, a nonprofit promoting independence as a critical part of childhood. Ever since her column “Why I Let My 9-Year-Old Ride the Subway Alone” created a media firestorm, Lenore has been declaring that our kids are smarter and stronger than our culture gives them credit for. She is the author of Free-Range Kids, the book-turned-movement that garnered her the nickname, “America’s Worst Mom.”

67 min2 d ago
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How To Let Your Kids Live More Dangerously: A conversation with “America’s Worst Mom,” Lenore Skenazy

Can The Artist Survive? A Conversation with Writer and Performer Sandra Tsing Loh

When Sandra Tsing Loh was beginning her career in the 1980s, she modeled herself after avant garde performance artists like Laurie Anderson. She even put the “Tsing” in her name because she thought it sounded “Yoko Ono-ish.” But after becoming an established figure in the Los Angeles arts scene and a prolific writer for alternative publications, Sandra’s life began to change and so did the notion of artistry itself. In this interview, Sandra talks about the realties of making art in the current economic and cultural landscape, the tyranny of promoting your work on social media, “not being Asian enough,” and much more. An extended version of this interview is available for second-tier Patreon subscribers at www.Patreon.com/theunspeakable.

53 min1 w ago
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Can The Artist Survive? A Conversation with Writer and Performer Sandra Tsing Loh

Uncomfortable Truths About Dating (At Least The Heterosexual Kind): A Conversation with Evan Marc Katz

"We make long term decisions based on short term feelings.” — Evan Marc KatzEvan Marc Katz is a dating coach who specializes in high achieving women seeking male partners. But instead of telling his clients to settle for nothing less than their financial, educational, and professional equals, he encourages them to get real about the dating economy and accept some hard truths about human mating patterns. In this conversation, Evan talks about why people overvalue chemistry, why dating apps are better for men than for women, and whether men, as a rule, are more prone to suffering than women are these days. He also razzes lone wolf Meghan about her stubbornness when it comes to romance.Billed as a “personal trainer for smart, strong, successful women,” Evan Marc Katz is a dating coach who has been helping singles since 2003. He is the author of four books, most recentlyBelieve In Love, and has been featured in hundreds of media outlets, including Today, the New York Times, and CNN. Since 2015, Evan’sbloghas over 30 million readers, hispodcasthas over 1 million downloads and 12,000 women have graduated fromLove U, his six-month video course that helps women understand men and find love. Evan is very happily married and lives in Los Angeles with his wife and their two children. Visit him atwww.evanmarckatz.com.

51 min2 w ago
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Uncomfortable Truths About Dating (At Least The Heterosexual Kind): A Conversation with Evan Marc Katz

What Does Postmodernism Have To Do With Social Justice? Helen Pluckrose Explains It All

British academic Helen Pluckrose is the co-author, with James Lindsay, ofCynical Theories: How Activist Scholarship Made Everything About Race, Gender, and Identity—And Why This Harms Everybody. She was also part of an infamous academic hoax wherein “grievance studies” papers about subjects such as fat bodybuilding and dog park rape culture were accepted for publication in established journals. In this interview, Helen talks about how the social philosophy known as critical theory came to inform mainstream culture and politics and how we can understand it better while also stop pretending to understand what is fundamentally nonsense. She also gives a concise definition of “intersectionality” and offers tips on what to say when your friend or boss asks you to readWhite Fragility.Helen Pluckrose is a liberal political and cultural writer and commentator currently focusing on postmodernism and Critical Social Justice scholarship and activism. She is the editor ofAreo,a digital mag...

68 min3 w ago
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What Does Postmodernism Have To Do With Social Justice? Helen Pluckrose Explains It All

Why Are So Many Kids Saying They're Trans? (And How Big A Deal Is This?)

We forget that beyond thoughts and ideas and language there is a three-dimensional reality that gives us valuable experiences and can teach us a lot about how to be in the world. — Sasha AyadIn this edition of the podcast, Meghan speaks with Sasha Ayad, a Licensed Professional Counselor who treats adolescents and young adults dealing with issues related to gender identity. Over the last few years, the number of teens announcing transgender identities has increased dramatically. Some statistics point to increases of more than 1000 percent in the annual rate of children seeking specialized gender services. Sasha talks about what may be driving this phenomenon, why it’s more common in girls, why trans identification often appears in clusters within peer groups, and how the power of trans activism has affected treatment models and standards of care.Sasha Ayad is a Licensed Professional Counselor who works in private practice, and has treated adolescents for over 10 years. Her work foc...

86 minAUG 24
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Why Are So Many Kids Saying They're Trans? (And How Big A Deal Is This?)

Can We Get Smarter About Policing? A conversation with Professor of Police Science (and former Baltimore cop) Peter Moskos

“You’re far less likely to be shot as a black man in New York City than as a white man in Tulsa.” - Peter MoskosIn this episode, Meghan talks with Peter Moskos, a professor of law and police science at John Jay College of Criminal Justice who also happens to be a former Baltimore City police officer. They discuss the media’s role in public perceptions of policing, the various definitions of “defund the police, the impact of ubiquitous cameras and viral videos and what big city police departments get right that smaller ones tend to get wrong. Peter also talks about the death of George Floyd and shares his theory about what the other officers on the scene might have been thinking as they watched the events transpire.Professor Peter Moskos (A.B. Princeton, PhD Harvard) is chairperson of the Department of Law, Police Science, and Criminal Justice Administration at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York City. He is the director of John Jay College’s NYPD Executive Master...

70 minAUG 17
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Can We Get Smarter About Policing? A conversation with Professor of Police Science (and former Baltimore cop) Peter Moskos

Dr. Drew Is Worried About A Health Crisis In Critical Thinking

"No one escapes. Everyone ends up in the guillotine eventually."In this episode of the podcast, Meghan speaks with celebrity physician Dr. Drew Pinsky, whose career in both medicine and media dates back to the 1980s, when he began co-hosting the nationally syndicated call-in radio program Loveline. Recorded in May on the heels of a controversy over some of Drew’s initial comments about the coronavirus pandemic, this conversation delves into Drew’s theories about how trauma is driving social media mobs, his own “traumatic reenactments” and how the whole world has been taken over by the Dunning Kruger Effect. They also talk about the inherent uncertainties of epidemiological medicine and how some of the chaotic public health messaging of the AIDS crisis mirrors what we’re experiencing today around COVID-19.Visit Dr. Drew at www.drdrew.com

47 minAUG 10
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Dr. Drew Is Worried About A Health Crisis In Critical Thinking

Leigh Stein on the rise and fall of the #GirlBoss and her new novel, Self Care

In this episode of the podcast, Meghan talks with novelist Leigh Stein, whose wickedly satirical new novel Self Care sends up internet influencers and Goop-flavored millennial startup culture while also slyly poking fun at the commodification of social justice activism. Leigh discusses the feminism, capitalism, and “performative workaholism” that inspired her novel and talks about how she went from being “part of the woke mob” to embracing more nuanced discussions.

64 minAUG 3
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Leigh Stein on the rise and fall of the #GirlBoss and her new novel, Self Care

Gen X Girl Talk With Evolutionary Biologist Heather Heying

**Recorded July 15th**“I do think on average men are more likely to be more disruptive than necessary and women are more likely to be less disruptive than necessary” — Dr. Heather HeyingEvolutionary biologist Dr. Heather Heying has emerged over the last few years as a free speech advocate, largely because of her connection to a now-infamous set of protests at Evergreen State College, where she and husband, evolutionary biologist Bret Weinstein, taught for fifteen years. But less is known about Heather’s own story. In a wide-ranging conversation that covers sex differences, sex discrimination, and what it was like to grow up in the 1970s and 1980s as a girl who felt “invincible,” Heather talks about doing field work in Madagascar, wanting to be a science fiction writer, and why there aren’t more women in the “Intellectual Dark Web.”GUEST BIO:Heather Heying is a scientist, educator, and author. Currently a Visiting Fellow in the James Madison Program at Princeton, she was a p...

66 minJUL 24
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Gen X Girl Talk With Evolutionary Biologist Heather Heying
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Latest Episodes

How To Let Your Kids Live More Dangerously: A conversation with “America’s Worst Mom,” Lenore Skenazy

Journalist Lenore Skenazy was dubbed “America’s Worst Mom” in 2008 for a column about letting her nine-year-old ride the subway alone. The controversy led her to speak out about finding safe ways to allow kids to be more independent and she founded the Free Range Kids movement. In 2018 she co-founded Let Grow, a nonprofit that offers resource materials, school curricula and even does policy work with an aim toward helping kids be more self-sufficient (and helping their parents allow them to be). In this interview, Lenore talks with Meghan about her work, her own parenting and the fact that, as she puts it, “There’s never been a safer time to be a child in America.”Guest Bio:Lenore Skenazy is co-founder and president of Let Grow, a nonprofit promoting independence as a critical part of childhood. Ever since her column “Why I Let My 9-Year-Old Ride the Subway Alone” created a media firestorm, Lenore has been declaring that our kids are smarter and stronger than our culture gives them credit for. She is the author of Free-Range Kids, the book-turned-movement that garnered her the nickname, “America’s Worst Mom.”

67 min2 d ago
Comments
How To Let Your Kids Live More Dangerously: A conversation with “America’s Worst Mom,” Lenore Skenazy

Can The Artist Survive? A Conversation with Writer and Performer Sandra Tsing Loh

When Sandra Tsing Loh was beginning her career in the 1980s, she modeled herself after avant garde performance artists like Laurie Anderson. She even put the “Tsing” in her name because she thought it sounded “Yoko Ono-ish.” But after becoming an established figure in the Los Angeles arts scene and a prolific writer for alternative publications, Sandra’s life began to change and so did the notion of artistry itself. In this interview, Sandra talks about the realties of making art in the current economic and cultural landscape, the tyranny of promoting your work on social media, “not being Asian enough,” and much more. An extended version of this interview is available for second-tier Patreon subscribers at www.Patreon.com/theunspeakable.

53 min1 w ago
Comments
Can The Artist Survive? A Conversation with Writer and Performer Sandra Tsing Loh

Uncomfortable Truths About Dating (At Least The Heterosexual Kind): A Conversation with Evan Marc Katz

"We make long term decisions based on short term feelings.” — Evan Marc KatzEvan Marc Katz is a dating coach who specializes in high achieving women seeking male partners. But instead of telling his clients to settle for nothing less than their financial, educational, and professional equals, he encourages them to get real about the dating economy and accept some hard truths about human mating patterns. In this conversation, Evan talks about why people overvalue chemistry, why dating apps are better for men than for women, and whether men, as a rule, are more prone to suffering than women are these days. He also razzes lone wolf Meghan about her stubbornness when it comes to romance.Billed as a “personal trainer for smart, strong, successful women,” Evan Marc Katz is a dating coach who has been helping singles since 2003. He is the author of four books, most recentlyBelieve In Love, and has been featured in hundreds of media outlets, including Today, the New York Times, and CNN. Since 2015, Evan’sbloghas over 30 million readers, hispodcasthas over 1 million downloads and 12,000 women have graduated fromLove U, his six-month video course that helps women understand men and find love. Evan is very happily married and lives in Los Angeles with his wife and their two children. Visit him atwww.evanmarckatz.com.

51 min2 w ago
Comments
Uncomfortable Truths About Dating (At Least The Heterosexual Kind): A Conversation with Evan Marc Katz

What Does Postmodernism Have To Do With Social Justice? Helen Pluckrose Explains It All

British academic Helen Pluckrose is the co-author, with James Lindsay, ofCynical Theories: How Activist Scholarship Made Everything About Race, Gender, and Identity—And Why This Harms Everybody. She was also part of an infamous academic hoax wherein “grievance studies” papers about subjects such as fat bodybuilding and dog park rape culture were accepted for publication in established journals. In this interview, Helen talks about how the social philosophy known as critical theory came to inform mainstream culture and politics and how we can understand it better while also stop pretending to understand what is fundamentally nonsense. She also gives a concise definition of “intersectionality” and offers tips on what to say when your friend or boss asks you to readWhite Fragility.Helen Pluckrose is a liberal political and cultural writer and commentator currently focusing on postmodernism and Critical Social Justice scholarship and activism. She is the editor ofAreo,a digital mag...

68 min3 w ago
Comments
What Does Postmodernism Have To Do With Social Justice? Helen Pluckrose Explains It All

Why Are So Many Kids Saying They're Trans? (And How Big A Deal Is This?)

We forget that beyond thoughts and ideas and language there is a three-dimensional reality that gives us valuable experiences and can teach us a lot about how to be in the world. — Sasha AyadIn this edition of the podcast, Meghan speaks with Sasha Ayad, a Licensed Professional Counselor who treats adolescents and young adults dealing with issues related to gender identity. Over the last few years, the number of teens announcing transgender identities has increased dramatically. Some statistics point to increases of more than 1000 percent in the annual rate of children seeking specialized gender services. Sasha talks about what may be driving this phenomenon, why it’s more common in girls, why trans identification often appears in clusters within peer groups, and how the power of trans activism has affected treatment models and standards of care.Sasha Ayad is a Licensed Professional Counselor who works in private practice, and has treated adolescents for over 10 years. Her work foc...

86 minAUG 24
Comments
Why Are So Many Kids Saying They're Trans? (And How Big A Deal Is This?)

Can We Get Smarter About Policing? A conversation with Professor of Police Science (and former Baltimore cop) Peter Moskos

“You’re far less likely to be shot as a black man in New York City than as a white man in Tulsa.” - Peter MoskosIn this episode, Meghan talks with Peter Moskos, a professor of law and police science at John Jay College of Criminal Justice who also happens to be a former Baltimore City police officer. They discuss the media’s role in public perceptions of policing, the various definitions of “defund the police, the impact of ubiquitous cameras and viral videos and what big city police departments get right that smaller ones tend to get wrong. Peter also talks about the death of George Floyd and shares his theory about what the other officers on the scene might have been thinking as they watched the events transpire.Professor Peter Moskos (A.B. Princeton, PhD Harvard) is chairperson of the Department of Law, Police Science, and Criminal Justice Administration at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York City. He is the director of John Jay College’s NYPD Executive Master...

70 minAUG 17
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Can We Get Smarter About Policing? A conversation with Professor of Police Science (and former Baltimore cop) Peter Moskos

Dr. Drew Is Worried About A Health Crisis In Critical Thinking

"No one escapes. Everyone ends up in the guillotine eventually."In this episode of the podcast, Meghan speaks with celebrity physician Dr. Drew Pinsky, whose career in both medicine and media dates back to the 1980s, when he began co-hosting the nationally syndicated call-in radio program Loveline. Recorded in May on the heels of a controversy over some of Drew’s initial comments about the coronavirus pandemic, this conversation delves into Drew’s theories about how trauma is driving social media mobs, his own “traumatic reenactments” and how the whole world has been taken over by the Dunning Kruger Effect. They also talk about the inherent uncertainties of epidemiological medicine and how some of the chaotic public health messaging of the AIDS crisis mirrors what we’re experiencing today around COVID-19.Visit Dr. Drew at www.drdrew.com

47 minAUG 10
Comments
Dr. Drew Is Worried About A Health Crisis In Critical Thinking

Leigh Stein on the rise and fall of the #GirlBoss and her new novel, Self Care

In this episode of the podcast, Meghan talks with novelist Leigh Stein, whose wickedly satirical new novel Self Care sends up internet influencers and Goop-flavored millennial startup culture while also slyly poking fun at the commodification of social justice activism. Leigh discusses the feminism, capitalism, and “performative workaholism” that inspired her novel and talks about how she went from being “part of the woke mob” to embracing more nuanced discussions.

64 minAUG 3
Comments
Leigh Stein on the rise and fall of the #GirlBoss and her new novel, Self Care

Gen X Girl Talk With Evolutionary Biologist Heather Heying

**Recorded July 15th**“I do think on average men are more likely to be more disruptive than necessary and women are more likely to be less disruptive than necessary” — Dr. Heather HeyingEvolutionary biologist Dr. Heather Heying has emerged over the last few years as a free speech advocate, largely because of her connection to a now-infamous set of protests at Evergreen State College, where she and husband, evolutionary biologist Bret Weinstein, taught for fifteen years. But less is known about Heather’s own story. In a wide-ranging conversation that covers sex differences, sex discrimination, and what it was like to grow up in the 1970s and 1980s as a girl who felt “invincible,” Heather talks about doing field work in Madagascar, wanting to be a science fiction writer, and why there aren’t more women in the “Intellectual Dark Web.”GUEST BIO:Heather Heying is a scientist, educator, and author. Currently a Visiting Fellow in the James Madison Program at Princeton, she was a p...

66 minJUL 24
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Gen X Girl Talk With Evolutionary Biologist Heather Heying
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